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Panama City and the Bus to David
The 11th of Oct was our first morning in Panama City. My companion had plans to see a dentist for a consultation. Dental care is considerably cheaper in Panama so this was one of the reasons for her trip. She was very happy with the dentist, the plans for care, and the cost was quoted as $730 for work that would have cost her over $3000 in the US. Is it any wonder that people come down here for care?
Traffic in Panama City was definitely a challenge though! It has always been busy and gets more so as the city grows. They are building a subway system so the construction sometimes interferes with traffic flow. A fire broke out in one of the largest buildings, and a day later they were still struggling with managing it. From what I heard there were plastics and other substances that could create toxic smoke so surrounding buildings were evacuated and traffic was rerouted. What a nightmare! The traffic was insane, moving at a crawl or worse in many area with impatient drivers honking and hollering and trying to get through in any way they could.
We made it to the appointment in time because thankfully we had left quite early. The dental staff was a bit late though and the dentist herself was at least 30 minutes late. Returning to the hotel was worse though. It took a while to find any available taxis and some refused to go where we wanted to go because it involved the clogged up areas of town. We finally found one and a while later, got stuck in an intersection. Cars were nose to nose in the middle of the intersection and everyone was honking! Someone tried to get around us on the right, misjudged and scraped the back right side of the taxi. So now we had a traffic jam, and upset taxi driver out of the cab yelling at another driver, and we realized we weren’t going anywhere in this taxi and needed to set out to find another. I took the liberty of catching a short video of the situation.
After a bit we found another taxi but it took quite a while to get through all the jams and make it back to the hotel. We arrived past checkout time but the staff was very understanding and told us it was no problem. I was very happy that my Spanish had improved! I could manage pretty much everything we needed to do, which is much better than our last visit. Surprisingly enough, the gal at the hotel remembered my last visit, mostly because it is remarkable for a couple to be traveling with a 92 yr old mother.
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I had thought about visiting the canal on the way to the bus depot but as late as our morning went, I thought it would be better to go directly to the bus. We caught a cab with another friendly and helpful driver who let us off at the bus depot with directions on where to find lunch, a phone store, and a bus ticket.
(a Diablo Rojo – red devil, very colorful and interesting buses that used to be old US school buses. They are phasing them out in favor of safe, modern, air conditioned comfortable buses so I was glad to see a few of these still parked at the bus depot. They sure are interesting! Some of the art on them is amazing)
The bus was pretty easy to deal with. There is a long hall like a shopping mall. You look for the sign for your destination, go to the window under the sign, and buy your ticket. Buses leave about every hour and it cost $15.25. We also bought lunch (mainly American style fast food), and I bought a cell phone ($32 for the phone and a pre-paid card, don’t ask me how many minutes). Unfortunately the gal in the store looked like she was about 12, and I couldn’t seem to make her understand that we need to share information a little bit at a time because if she tells me everything all at once, I understand none of it. Eventually I understood enough – at least I thought I did since I was able to make a call. But of course, as soon as I left the store that luck ran out. Every time I would answer the phone it would shut off, and if I tried to make a call it would tell me it didn’t have a SIM card. Now I understand why my friend doesn’t want to use cell phones here. Apparently they are much more temperamental than they are in the US. It doesn’t help that the manual and menus are all in Spanish.
Anyway, we had lunch, I connected by phone with my friends long enough to tell them we were getting on the bus. We were warned that the buses are freezing, but I was very comfortable in jeans and a thick sweater (and I am cold more often than most). It was a great double decker bus, and we found that seats are assigned (after we sat in someone else’s seat and had to be politely instructed). But it must have been beginners luck since our seats were almost to the front of the upper deck with a great view. Seats were comfortable, windows were large for great views, and though the trip was long it was as comfortable as a bus could make it.
(a view of the Panama Canal as the bus crossed the bridge)
The trip from Panama City to David is about 7 hours through the beautiful countryside. The first leg is about 3 ½ hours, and a movie was shown on the on board TV’s. Then there was a break to stretch and eat. We were let off at a cafeteria that looked set up to feed many people quickly with tasty Panamanian style food. Then it was back on the bus for another movie, and unfortunately it was dark by now. Next time I will try and plan a day trip so I can see all the countryside because it felt like we were climbing mountains.
(The Panama countryside is beautiful!)
Shortly after break we came to a police stop. Apparently the police already had their eyes on three men that were sitting not far behind us. The police took them off the bus and though they asked everyone to get out their documents, they didn’t check anyone else. Someone else on the bus said the men were removed because they didn’t have documents. The police took them out beside the bus and yelled at them for a while, and then they were taken in the building and the bus was on its way. I was told later that there are many jobs here and times are much more difficult in other nearby countries, so there are many people who come here illegally to take advantage of the available work. The police are kept very busy tracking down the illegal immigrants in Panama. Who would have thought?
It felt really good to be coming in to David. We had been traveling since noon yesterday and we were pretty tired. Again, there were taxi’s on hand when we needed one and a great, friendly, helpful guy to help us get our baggage and be on our way.
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Tagged Central America, David, International Living, Moving, Panama
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Buses, Planes, New Countries!
SUNDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2012
The Trip To Panama Begins!! It is not exactly a straightforward process to get to our area of Panama, so the next few posts will be about the trip. There are a number of ways to go about it depending on where you want to fly from. I got a deal from Ft Lauderdale that I bought, so I took the bus to that city. Once in Panama City there are also choices on how to make the next leg of the trip. So, one thing at a time, starting with leaving Sarasota.
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We took the greyhound bus from Sarasota to Ft Lauderdale. It went great and made me think – Why didn’t we think of this before?! I will definitely consider bus travel again. The buses are comfortable with large seats. There is free WI-fi and electric outlets if you want to use your computer, recharge your phone, or anything else that needs electricity and/or internet. You can nap, watch the countryside go by through the large windows or as I did, chat with my traveling companion. The bus stops at most of the cities along the way so you can get out and stretch, buy a snack, and take a break which is nice. There are also facilities on the bus if needed.
When I went on line to buy my bus ticket, I saw that you can get a pass for a week, a month, two months, whatever works for you and for the length of the pass, you can ride the bus anywhere it goes at any time. That sounds very cool, and way more affordable than planes. On a return trip to the US I might consider doing this. There is so much of our country that I haven’t seen and if time isn’t an issue, why not?
So, the bus trip was a success. I think it was $43, if I remember, or was it $40? First step accomplished! When we arrived at the bus station there was taxi’s on hand so it was no problem to grab one for the trip to the airport. This was about $20.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I learned something new at the airport. I know that to go to Panama without a visa or residency card, you are required to have the resources to get out of the country again – credit card, $500 cash, or a return ticket. But, Spirit Air insists that you have a return ticket. Cash or credits cards don’t work. They wouldn’t even begin the check in process until I bought a return ticket. So, I now have one for Dec 20th and if I don’t use it, I’m out $135 (not the end of the world, so we will see what I want to do when the time comes) So, check in took a very long time while we sorted this out and shopped for a ticket cheap enough, within the time frame, etc. that met my needs. I was very thankful that we had plenty of time. Security wasn’t bad as security lines go but there were enough impatient and frustrated people mouthing off to make the wait interesting. I thought one lady was going to come to blows with one of the employees who wouldn’t let her cut to the front of the line.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Travelling with Spirit Air –
I got a heck of a deal on a ticket ($58) from Ft Lauderdale to Panama City. BUT if you take this airline you must expect extra costs. It cost me $83 for two bags, one carry on and one checked. The checked bag should have cost me $25 more because it was overweight but by the time the ticket guy had done the whole check in thing (with the return ticket and all), he realized he had forgotten to charge the extra and he wasn’t about to do it all again. So, if you use Spirit be sure to check their website for all the extra fees. Even a seat preference will cost you.
I got a heck of a deal on a ticket ($58) from Ft Lauderdale to Panama City. BUT if you take this airline you must expect extra costs. It cost me $83 for two bags, one carry on and one checked. The checked bag should have cost me $25 more because it was overweight but by the time the ticket guy had done the whole check in thing (with the return ticket and all), he realized he had forgotten to charge the extra and he wasn’t about to do it all again. So, if you use Spirit be sure to check their website for all the extra fees. Even a seat preference will cost you.
Travel with Spirit is definitely no frills. The seats are very basic, not especially comfortable, vinyl covered, and they don’t recline. It was late at night and this made napping more difficult. There is no food service, and not even any beverage service. Again, you have to buy anything you get. Spirit Air will get you there as advertised but it is as basic as you can get and you will pay extra for every little thing. Still though, with everything added up it was still cheaper than the next least expensive option that I found, and now I know how it is on Spirit if I use them again.An aside – you can bring an empty drink bottle through security and fill it up at a water fountain later. That sure beats paying airport prices for a bottle of water.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I was a bit concerned about arriving in Panama City that late at night but it was no problem. There were a lot of other people on the plane, and quite a bit of activity in general in the airport. There were plenty of taxi’s available as well. Our driver wasn’t too chatty but he got us there in short order and charged us a fair price (expect around $30 because it’s a drive from outside the city with luggage, and the driver has tolls to pay). I had called the hotel ahead of time to let them know we were arriving very late and as expected, there was a guy at the desk ready to check us in. So, all in all things went very well with no complications or unexpected issues.
It sure felt good to lie down on that hotel bed!! It was a long day and we were tired. I would say this was a very successful first day of our journey. We had made it from home in Sarasota, Florida, to our new country of the Republic of Panama! The next posts will tell of the continuation of the journey and our further experiences.
Posted in moving, Panama, travel
Tagged Central America, David, International Living, Moving, Panama
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Arrival in Panama!
It’s Friday, 10/12/12 and I made it to David last night. Of course there will be more posts about various aspects of the trip but I wanted to make a short note on being here, finally, after all the months of preparations. It is going to take some time to sink in, and it’s definitely going to take some time to change gears and learn to slow down a bit.
What am I thinking about?
- The Greyhound bus trip to Ft Lauderdale
- Spirit Air and requirements to get on the plane, visiting Panama without a visa
- Arrival in Panama City
- The morning in Panama City, city traffic!
- the bus trip from PC to David
- Phones in Panama
- the Bambu hostel visit
- arriving at my friends house
- car shopping
- communicating with people back home
- looking at houses
- changing the mindset, learning to relax.
So this post is more for me than you all, trying to organize my mind when it is still a bit hard to settle. Thanks and stay tuned!
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Tagged Central America, David, International Living, Moving, Panama
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Two Days to Liftoff!
MONDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2012
I’m ready! Everything is sorted. Everything is packed or ready to toss into the suitcase. There are a few odds and ends, errands, etc that will get done tomorrow because it’s a holiday today. I leave the day after tomorrow. Is this really happening?How did we get to this point? Why are we moving to Panama? We get asked this all the time. Some think it’s exciting. Some can’t imagine doing such a thing. But, as our generation reaches retirement, especially with the economic difficulties facing so many of us, more people are thinking of options.For us, it’s lots of reasons. What do we require? What do we want?Requirements
- Affordable
- Warm
- Stable country with adequate infrastructure, crime under control
- Reasonable distance from the US
Wants
- Natural beauty, and beaches
- Interesting and welcoming native people
- Interesting things to do
The cost of living is a fraction of what it is in the US.
The area we picked (city of David) has highs of upper 80’s, lows of lower 70’s year around.
The country has money, mainly from the canal, and the government is pumping the money back into the country. Roads are excellent. Internet is widely available and usually free in public areas. Growth and construction is evident everywhere, and the general tone of the country is upbeat and productive.
Crime doesn’t seem to be more of a problem than any US city. I think with sensible precautions we will feel secure.
The country is gorgeous beyond words! There is everything from spectacular beaches to rainforest covered mountains. There is an amazing abundance and variety of wildlife. And, there is so much of the country we have yet to explore.
The people are warm, friendly and welcoming. They are very family oriented, and love to have fun. We love the people we have met so far and look forward to making more Panamanian friends.
There is shopping, restaurants, movies, all the things one would expect to find in a small city. There are tons of outdoor activities like swimming, fishing, hiking, tennis, scuba, snorkeling. Halba Ya languange school has field trips, salsa lessons, volunteer activities, and other opportunities. Boquette (45 min away in the “highlands”) has a theater, weekly market, and other “gringo” gatherings for anyone who wants to do things with other expats. Again, there is so much yet to explore I’m sure we have barely scratched the surface. I am interested in photography and it will be a photography paradise!
This is my favorite beach in the area. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a place more beautiful.

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Tagged Central America, David, International Living, Moving, Panama
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WHY? why write a blog? (the First Post)
This blog has been living on another site, and I am in the process of transferring it to WordPress So, the first month or so of posts are all going to be posted in a short time but hopefully the dates at the beginning of each one will give a sense of when these events actually happened. Since I am posting after the face, I have cheated and included an image of the woods and jungle next to the house we ended up finding.
SUNDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2012
If one is about to start a great new adventure, one must write about it! I like to write. It helps me sort things out. it helps document things. Others can read my writing if they want to know what’s going on. But, mainly, I enjoy writing.
What adventure?
PANAMA!
We are moving to Panama! Yes, the Panama in Central America, specifically David, Chiriqui Provence, Republic of Panama. It’s in western Panama not far from the Costa Rica border. We fell in love with the country, this area, and we are excited to live there. There will be another post coming along to explain why we chose this spot. But, at the moment, we are in the insanity of moving from our long time home in Florida.
Today is Oct 7th, 2012. We have been thinking about moving for a couple years, actively preparing for nine months, and we are almost ready. I am leaving on the 10th, in three days! My husband and his mother are also moving, and will follow as soon as they have made the necessary arrangements. Our house is on the market. Ma’s house will be on the market this coming week. Things are in boxes and suitcases. Final cleaning out of houses is in progress. Potential buyers are looking. It’s a bit nuts right now but this too shall pass.
My job in Panama will be to buy a car, find a house, and have things set up for everyone else. I need to arrange phone service, internet, mail, and all the usual necessities that goes with daily living. I’m very lucky to have some great friends both in person and on line who can help me get situated. I’m sure there will be challenges but I’m feeling confident that this is going to be a very good move.
And, my job now on this new blog is to learn my way around the site and figure out how the various features work, so I’m off to see what I can get into. There will be more on the Panama move coming very soon!
I’ve also made a few videos so here’s a few links.
9/28/12 The move to Panama in progress
October 1, 1012 The Move to Panama
Apparently I made more than I thought! These document the house in Florida as it goes through the final stages of getting it fixed up and ready to put on the market. So, if you want to know where I used to live, here you go.
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Tagged Central America, David, Florida, International Living, Moving, Panama, Sarasota
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